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NSMS Alternative Fuel Technology - Discussion Space

Posted at 11:40 AM on January 16, 2009

NSMS discussion board for HHO, alternative fuel technology, and COSM and supporting technologies. This is a community of experts and lay persons supporting each other's efforts in this arena.

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657 Comments

Reply paul

03:59 PM on September 28, 2008

do you think ill ever see my money or the units that was 10 weeks ago

Reply Vendel

07:10 PM on September 28, 2008

Dear guys. If I can help with some thing just to make you understand Mad's situation please call me. What ever the question just goooo ahead and I will take time for you. 254-541-9775

Reply atfab

08:07 PM on September 28, 2008

paul, Right now it's hard to tell, between the part shortages and then the flood. Mad has some people making COSMs but I don't know what was salvaged or replaced at this time.

Reply atfab

08:22 PM on September 28, 2008

Vendel, Thanks, with Mad off line, I could use some help.

Reply Give a little, means alot!

12:19 PM on September 29, 2008

Send to: John and Cindy Hines 342 Twp 1275 Polk, OH 44866

Reply Bob N

11:32 AM on October 01, 2008

Received my cosm III and am putting together. Cannot figure out what the small black three pronged thing is or where it goes, any help would be appreciated.

Reply atfab

06:13 PM on October 01, 2008

Bob N Probably the voltage regulator, Is "LM7805" on it? You sure you are up to assembling this? Look at my site, there are diagrams to help ID some of the parts. Ask any other questions here. <a href="http://atfabcrafts.tripod.com/photos/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://atfabcrafts.tripod.com/photos/</a>

Reply dwsantiago

08:03 PM on October 01, 2008

Bob N - Is the board a 1.3 version? If it is the black round thing is a MPSA42 Transistor. It goes above the LM311P Socket. Look at the COSMIII Photos, #4 is the PCB layout look on the right side above the LM311P there are three holes marked E B C this is where the transistor goes. The flat side faces the LM311P socket. If you have anymore questions e-mail me at <a href="mailto: dwsantiago@yahoo.com ">dwsantiago@yahoo.com </a>and i'll be glad to help as there are no other assembly instructions for the COSM III ver. 1.3 that i'm aware of at this time.

Reply atfab

08:22 PM on October 01, 2008

dwsantiago Thanks for helping out. I have only a technicial description of the lll's circuit here.

Reply anthonyjc

02:58 AM on October 02, 2008

I have been checking the sight from time to time for news concerning MAD and family. RICKMICK's suggestion to buy a kit and donate the money is brilliant, I must say. It's not only the best way to insure John and family are able to receive your donation and help them right away. We might be able to change his MAD mind and show how important he is and has been to this cause, HHO. We all have needed and received in some small way. NOW IS THE TIME TO "PAY IT FORWARD".

Reply anthonyjc

01:46 PM on October 02, 2008

ATFAB, Just a thought, if MAD put the cosmIII circuit board with complete instrution and parts list and where to buy them, I would buy. This would bring in needed funds with little effort. He might also place a donation tab on the same page. MAD, let us help, it lets people feel good without getting drunk!! ATFAB, what meters were used in the cosmIII and where can I get them.

Reply atfab

02:22 PM on October 02, 2008

anthonyjc I don't have a clue as to what is being done or is available. Right now it's hard to tell, between the part shortages and then the flood. Mad had said he has some people making COSMs but I don't know what was/can be salvaged or replaced at this time. Try <a href="http://www.mpja.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.mpja.com </a>for the meter, (item# 16565 ME) I'm almost positive this is the one Mad spec'ed first for the COSM 111. It's the one I have and it works fine.

Reply nothingssomething-br,la

06:46 PM on October 02, 2008

on a scale of 1 to 10 1 being (you press the gass and it goes) i am about an incomplete 4. do you think i could build one of these kits??? i can fix most things with a hanes repair manual. and i really am pressed for money you appealed to me when you mentioned you thinking that this technology should be open-source. i really don't have the assets to attempt something like this and be out of a car /engine if i mess it up even tho i am low on cash haveing a good pre understanding i would buy one of those guides (i think the cheep ones are like 60 dollars) and the parts cost something like 60 dollars i can byte that for a month. what i can't do is be out of a car, and someone holding the "it's not my fault, so tough luck" SIGN

Reply nothignssomething

06:52 PM on October 02, 2008

reply here

Reply RickMick

10:25 PM on October 02, 2008

If you are setting up a Cosm on your vehicle, and would like to understand just how an 02 sensor works, I have one of the best written articles on my site that is worth reading. <a href="http://www.rickmickauction.com/shop/02diagnostic.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.rickmickauction.com/shop/02diagnosti
c.htm</a>

Reply atfab

11:28 PM on October 02, 2008

nothignssomething To start with, do you know how to solder on a printed circuit board well? Also , are you versed in automotive electrical terms and wiring? And most important, Do you know what a COSM is for? Please, I don't mean to put you off, the COSM llA is a simple enough kit. the COSM lll is more complex, but the boards have small contact pads that are easy to overheat and ruin. You should also know how to use a volt/ohm meter properly. There is lots of help here from many people, but without some direct experience, many have a hard time getting it done right. Be honest with yourself about your limitations. Look in the Photo Gallery for some clues and info. If you decide to go ahead, there may be some wait for a kit, the Mad Scientist got flooded out and current production is very limited. I haven't had an update in over a week.

Reply atfab

09:58 AM on October 04, 2008

Update from Mad, We have restarted LIMITED building of COSM-III units. Our supply of components is low due to having lost much in the flood but we have enough hardware onhand to build roughly 10 to maybe 15 COSM-III's. Meantime, anyone interested in taking over the project can still contact us to discuss. We are trying to get things going again as quickly as possible. To those who have taken the opportunity to send us angry email, I apologize but also hope you never have to find out for yourself what it's like to experience the wrath of Mother Nature. To those who have sent messages of support, we greatly appreciate that. It has been difficult to squeeze lemonade out of this lemon but we are trying to at least gear up enough to get some units out to you who have been waiting for them. Thank you, very much. John and Cindy

Reply greeky

06:37 PM on October 04, 2008

10/5/08 I'd like to order one of the last few assembled COSM-III's or at the very least a kit, but 1) your web site already says that the COSM_III's are sold out and 2) paypal says you are not accepting $. Could you please contact me at <a href="mailto: general3g@yahoo.com ">general3g@yahoo.com </a>and give me a phone number to contact you so that I can discuss with you whether I can get an assembled COSM-III or COSM-III kit and how I can pay you. All the best to you. I'm sorry to hear that you were so adversely affected by the severe weather in FLA. Again, good luck and please do try to contact me. Greeky

Reply Jermy

09:14 PM on October 04, 2008

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, I know that it must really bring you down to have lost all of your gear and all. I just wanted to make you aware of the irony in all of this. You are trying to make fuel out of water, and guess what comes along and "rains" on your parade! Sorry for your loss, but keep up the good work, we are all depending on people like you!

Reply atfab

08:38 AM on October 05, 2008

Jermy Contact Mad at <a href="mailto: buymad@madcosm.com. "> buymad@madcosm.com. </a> His home computers are down and he has very limited internet access at work so expect a few days for a reply.